canSAS-2012
2012 Meeting of canSAS working groups
Purpose
Work on specific matters important to the canSAS community as decided in previous conference calls. It is expected that those attending this working session will already have strong foundation and understanding and will come ready with knowledge, tools, and ideas to make significant progress during the event. The specific projects and tasks, as well as the list of participants, are described on this wiki and will be revised as the event draws near.
The three main themes are:
- Treated data format - developing a standard for multidimensional treated data and resolving issues that arise with the 1-d standard and its implementaion.
- Discussion Page : 2012 Data Discussion
- report Page : 2012 Data Working Group Report
- Standardisation - intercomparison of measurements and software for data reduction and analysis so as to assess experimental and intstrumental reliability
- Discussion Page : 2012 Standards Discussion
- Development of a Global SAS web portal. This should be a general point of entry for the community to find information about small-angle scattering.
- Discussion Page : 2012 Web Discussion
This page provides discussion of the themes, preliminary work and ideas : 2012 Discussion
Outcomes
- 2-d data format
- A plan for standards
- Global SAS Web Portal
- presentation at SAS2012
Time and Place
Dates
- 2012 July 28 - 31 (Saturday - Tuesday, inclusive)
Meeting Location
Uppsala University
Building: Angstrom Laboratory [1]
Room(s): Faculty Room, Angstrom Lab. (2nd floor above main entrance). Additional break-out sessions in Rooms 61416 and 62416.
We will hold some web based sessions (Webinars) during the meeting so that people in the broader canSAS community that are unable to attend in person can participate in some of the discussions during the meeting.
Schedule
- arrive the previous day (Friday, 2012-07-27)
- conference check-in first morning (Saturday, 2012-07-28), location Angstrom Laboratory
- meet all day (Sunday, 2012-07-29), location Angstrom Laboratory
- meet all day (Monday, 2012-07-30), location Angstrom Laboratory
- meet all day (Tuesday, 2012-07-31), location Angstrom Laboratory
- checkout next day (Wednesday, 2012-08-01)
Daily Agenda
Meeting room is the Faculty Room (House 1, Floor 2 - directly above main entrance). We will also use rooms 61416 and 62416 for breakout sessions.
Here is a suggested schedule (tentative):
Saturday, 28 July 2012
| Uppsala time | description | comments | UK BST | US CDT | AUS EST | Japan JST |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 09:00 - 09:15 AM | plenary | Welcome and Introductions | ||||
| 09:15 - 10:30 AM | plenary | 5 minute presentation by each participant of ideas and challenges | ||||
| 10:30 - 10:45 AM | plenary | tea, coffee | ||||
| 10:45 - 11:10 PM | plenary | Report presentations
NIAC status and plans for SAS data formats |
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| 11:10 - 12:30 PM | plenary | Plenary discussion on standardisation, data formats, web portal | ||||
| 12:30 - 2:00 PM | lunch | Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1. | ||||
| 2:00 - 3:00 PM | plenary | Webinar
focused discussions of 20 min on each topic: |
1:00-2:00 PM | 7:00-8:00 AM | 10:00-11:00 PM | 9:00-10:00 PM |
| 3:00 - 4:30 PM | afternoon session | work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal | ||||
| 4:30 - 4:45 PM | plenary | tea, coffee | ||||
| 4:45 - 6:00 PM | afternoon session | work in groups - standardisation, data formats, web portal | ||||
| 6:30 - 8:00 PM | dinner | TBA | ||||
| 8:30 PM - ? | evening discussions | ad hoc |
Sunday 29 July 2012
| Uppsala time | description | comments |
|---|---|---|
| 08:45 - 09:45 AM | plenary | Reports, questions, and discussion
and plan day's work |
| 09:45 - 10:00 AM | plenary | tea, coffee |
| 10:00 - 12:00 noon | morning session | work in groups |
| 12:00 - 1:30 PM | lunch | Sandwiches in Coffee area - House 6, Floor 1. |
| 1:30 - 4:30 PM | afternoon session | work in groups |
| 4:30 - 4:45 PM | plenary | tea, coffee |
| 4:45 - 6:00 PM | plenary | reports and discussions |
| 6:30 - 8:00 PM | dinner | TBA |
| 8:30 PM - ? | evening discussions | ad hoc |
The intensity of deliberations takes its toll on Andrew & Lionel...
Monday 30 July 2012
| Uppsala time | description | comments | UK BST | US CDT | AUS EST | Japan JST |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 08:45 - 09:30 AM | plenary | Webinar | 7:45-8:30 AM | 1:45-2:30 AM | 4:45-5:30 PM | 3:45-4:30 PM |
| 09:30 - 09:45 AM | plenary | tea, coffee | ||||
| 09:45 - 12:00 noon | morning session | work in groups | ||||
| 12:00 - 1:30 PM | lunch | to be determined | ||||
| 1:30 - 4:30 PM | afternoon session | work in groups | ||||
| 4:30 - 4:45 PM | plenary | tea, coffee | ||||
| 4:45 - 6:00 PM | plenary | reports and discussions - plan dissemination | ||||
| 6:30 - 8:00 PM | dinner | TBA | ||||
| 8:30 PM - ? | evening discussions | ad hoc |
Tuesday 31 July 2012
| Uppsala time | description | comments | UK BST | US CDT | AUS EST | Japan JST |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 08:45 - 09:30 AM | plenary | Plan reports/outcomes* | ||||
| 09:30 - 09:45 AM | plenary | tea, coffee | ||||
| 09:45 - 12:00 noon | morning session | groups work on reports/outcomes* | ||||
| 12:00 - 1:30 PM | lunch | to be determined | ||||
| 1:30 - 3:45 PM | afternoon session | groups work on reports/outcomes* | ||||
| 3:45 - 4:00 PM | plenary | tea, coffee | ||||
| 4:00 - 6:00 PM | plenary | Webinar
Presentation of prelim reports and concluding discussions |
3:00-5:00 PM | 9:00-11:00 AM | 12:00 midnight-2:00 AM (Wed. 1 Aug.) | 11:00 PM-1:00 AM |
| 6:30 - 8:00 PM | dinner | TBA | ||||
| 8:30 PM - ? | evening discussions | ad hoc |
* Besides reports other outcomes could include schemas,api definitions, live web pages, etc.
Webinar Schedule and Themes
This list has been extracted from the above program.
Please use the specific links below for each date to join the webinars at the stated time. If you send your e-mail contact details to Adrian.Rennie@fysik.uu.se we can try to keep you informed of any late technical changes. If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before the following tests and information may be helpful:
(a) Test your connection: https://connect.sunet.se/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
(b) Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/go/connectpro_overview
Reminder: it is a good idea to check your sound before the meeting. Use of a headset is strongly recommended to avoid background noise and feedback. You will be able to access the webinar as a 'guest'. Please give your name so that you are identified to other participants. Participants can contribute presentations and display material from their computers. When you connect to the meeting as a guest, you will need to wait for a host to accept your participation. It will be most efficient if everyone connects a little before the advertised start time!
You do no need specific software or licenses to participate in these meetings. You will be prompted to install Adobe Flash (free) if you wish to participate.
We can arrange other ad-hoc electronic meetings if necessary. Please contact participants or the host (Adrian Rennie) to make arrangements.
How to get to specific webinars
Saturday, 28 July 2012
Focused discussions of 20 min on each topic: standardisation, data formats, and web portal
To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas2012_i/
- Uppsala: 2:00 - 3:00 PM
- UK BST: 1:00 - 2:00 PM
- US CDT: 7:00 - 8:00 AM
- AUS EST: 10:00 - 11:00 PM
- Japan JST: 9:00 - 10:00 PM
Sunday, 29 July 2012
no webinar
Monday, 30 July 2012
This will provide updates on work at the meeting.
To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas_ii/
- Uppsala: 8:45 - 9:30 AM
- UK BST: 7:45 - 8:30 AM
- US CDT: 1:45 - 2:30 AM
- AUS EST: 4:45 - 5:30 PM
- Japan JST: 3:45 - 4:30 PM
Tuesday, 31 July 2012
Presentation of preliminary reports and concluding discussions
To join the meeting go to the following link in a browser: https://connect.sunet.se/cansas_iii/
- Uppsala: 4:00 - 6:00 PM
- UK BST: 3:00 - 5:00 PM
- US CDT: 9:00 - 11:00 AM
- AUS EST: 12:00 Midnight (Wednesday 1 August)- 2:00 AM (Wednesday 1 August)
- Japan JST: 11:00 PM (Tuesday 31 July) - 1:00 AM (Wednesday 1 August)
Business Matters
- Re-enunciate purpose and benefits of a standard reduced data format
- 1D Format
- agree a proposed extension of the current 1D standard
- 2D Format
- define minimum information necessary for reduced data
- suggest format framework (NeXus extension, canSAS 1D extension, other) with brief discussion of the reason for the choice (including options considered, pros and cons of each, and final weighing)
- Guide to how to make implementation easy.
- Create straw format suitable for test/demonstration use and convert some test data for such a demonstration.
- Provide a plan for presentation at SAS 2012
- 1D Format
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Data Discussion .
- Standards
- Purpose and goals: Intercomparison of data measured on the same sample with different instruments and different techniques (SAXS, SANS, light scattering etc.) can prove valuable in a number of ways. In particular it aids understanding of details of the experimental methods and it can help assess reliability. In a similar way, looking at results of data reduction or analysis generated with different software can provide valuable information about performance and verification of methodology. Specifically these activities should:
- Discuss what types of tests are interesting/important, intensity, resolution etc.
- Consider related issues: Inelastic, Multiple scattering, Wavelength contamination, Detector efficiencies at different wavelengths
- Outcomes needed are:
- A written plan to sustain long term effort in this area
- This should describe how to seed, co-ordinate and publicise “ad-hoc” projects ,
- Assess how frequently exercises can be undertaken
- Define good ways to disseminate/share results. This will including “advertising” projects and using them as input for other activities.
- We should aim to define a list of 2 or 3 projects for work in the near term. This should include a plan of action and participants for each.
- We should have a plan for presentation at SAS 2012. (This might just be an announcement of the plan and see who wants to participate?.)
- Purpose and goals: Intercomparison of data measured on the same sample with different instruments and different techniques (SAXS, SANS, light scattering etc.) can prove valuable in a number of ways. In particular it aids understanding of details of the experimental methods and it can help assess reliability. In a similar way, looking at results of data reduction or analysis generated with different software can provide valuable information about performance and verification of methodology. Specifically these activities should:
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Standards Discussion
- Global SAS Web Portal
- define scope, purpose, and goal of portal
- list content type to which such a portal should give access.
- Suggest method for hosting
- Build a working straw landing page prototype
- Build at least 2 or 3 subpages and/or designs on paper
- plan for presentations
- SAS 2012
- SAS commission
More details and suggestions are on the Discussion Page: 2012 Web Discussion
Projects and Tasks
These items are sorted in order of priority that they be finished.
- 2-D format
- Standardization
- SAS web portal
Practical Matters
Registration
Please inform Adrian Rennie of your intention to particpate and send details of your arrival and departure dates. You should book the accommodation directly with the hotel - see below.
Hotel
Clarion Hotel Gillet, Uppsala
Dragarbrunnsgatan 23,
753 20 Uppsala, Sweden
- Expect hotel rate to be 570 SEK for 1 Single Bed (approximate, subject to change)
- Please reserve your own rooms directly with the hotel (website, phone, ...)
The quoted rate at the hotel should include breakfast. This hotel is in the centre of Uppsala (see map) and is a few minutes walk from the railway station.
- Web site
- http://www.clarionhotelgillet.com/
- telephone
- +46 (0) 18 68 18 00
- fax
- +46 (0) 18 68 18 18
- cl.uppsala@choice.se
- map reference
Directions and Maps
- map to hotel: google directions from airport
- airport: Stockholm Arlanda (ARN): international
- taxi: Uppsala Taxi +4618 100000
- train: Trains from airport to Uppsala take about 20 minutes. Frequency every 30 minutes. map reference
The most convenient and fastest means to reach the hotel from the airport is usually to take the trains from Arlanda Central station (under SkyCity) to Uppsala. Upptåget trains leave the airport at xx:27 and xx:57 thoughout the day and take 20 minutes. The fare is 140 SEK (one way) and this can be paid with cash or by credit card at the ticket desk or using machines (red ticket machines - credit card only). If you plan to take a long distance train operated by Swedish Railways (SJ) you should buy different tickets. The hotel is a few minutes walk from the station in Uppsala.
You can also take the bus 801 from Arlanda Airport to Uppsala which departs every 30 minutes and takes about 40 minutes. The buses leave from stop number 13 (there is a stop with this number outside each terminal). Tickets can be bought at the airport or with a Swedish mobile phone or a Visa/Master Card on the bus. Cash is not accepted on the bus.
If you plan to take a taxi you can prebook a taxi and there is a fixed rate from the airport to Uppsala. You should make certain that you use one of the Uppsala taxi companies if you simply go to the rank at the airport.
Other Details
Host
- Adrian Rennie
- institute: Uppsala University
- email: Adrian.Rennie@fysik.uu.se
- office phone: +46184713596
Costs
- Conference fee: no fee
- regular meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner) will be traveller's expense
Equipment
| item | quantity | who provides? |
|---|---|---|
| projector & screen | 1 for each meeting room | host |
| LCD displays, keyboards, & mice | a few if needed | host |
| electrical power extension cords | plenty | host |
| foreign electrical power adapter | as needed | traveller |
| Wi-Fi connections | sufficient | host venue |
Participants
| participant | affiliation | arriving | departing | registration? | other |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Adrian Rennie | Uppsala University | host | host | host | |
| Paul Butler | NIST | 2012-07-27 | 2012-08-02 | Yes | |
| Andrew Jackson | ESS | 2012-07-27 | 2012-08-01 | Yes | |
| Pete Jemian | APS | 2012-07-27 | 2012-08-01 | Yes | |
| Steve King | ISIS | 2012-07-27 | 2012-08-01 | Yes | |
| Tobias Richter | Diamond Light Source | 2012-07-27 | 2012-08-01 | Yes | |
| Lionel Porcar | Institut Laue Langevin | 2012-07-27 | tba | Yes | |
| Masaaki Sugiyama | Kyoto University | 2012-07-27 | 2012-07-30 | Yes | |
| Ron Ghosh | University College London | 2012-07-27 | 2012-08-01 | Yes | |
| Yuya Shinohara | University of Tokyo | 2012-07-27 | 2012-08-01 | Yes | |
| Sarah Rogers | ISIS | 2012-07-27 | 2012-07-29 | Yes | |
| Maja Hellsing | Uppsala University | Yes | |||
| Duncan McGillivray | University of Aukland | 2012-07-27 | Yes |
Final Report
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